Be not afeard; the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices
That, if I then had waked after long sleep,
Will make me sleep again: and then, in dreaming,
The clouds methought would open and show riches
Ready to drop upon me that, when I waked,
I cried to dream again.
The Tempest. Act iii. Sc. 2
Found the below off the internet. Thought it was interesting.
It's about 2 aboriginal goddesses. It may be a possible explanation to
how our castaways got there, what the "leash" is out to the
water, the waterfalls, Claire being pregnant, Walt's possible upcoming
initiation to manhood, etc....
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- Eingana
The first being we call Eingana. We call Eingana our Mother.
Indigenous peoples... are the traditional guardians of the Law of Mother
Earth, a code of conservation inspired by a universally held belief that
the source of all life is the Earth, the Mother of all creation.
The people of the oldest continuing culture on the earths face, the Australian
natives, name Eingana the Mother as the creator, maker of all water, land,
animals, and kangaroos, This huge snake-goddess still lives, they say,
in the ocean, rising up occasionally to create yet more life.
At first, Eingana vomited living beings from her mouth. Then,
dissatisfied with this method of birth, she swallowed them again.
The primordial snake had no vagina; as her offspring grew inside her,
the goddess swelled up. Eventually, tortured with the pregnancy,
Eingana began to roll around and around. The god Barraiya saw her
agony and speared her near the anus so that birth could take place as
all creatures now give birth. From Eingana poured her reborn creatures,
which were chased by a dingo and took on their earthly forms as they flew,
ran, or hopped away.
The birth mother to these aboriginal people is also the death mother.
They say Eingana holds a sinew of life attached to each of her creatures;
when she lets it go, that life stops. If she herself should die,
they say everything would cease to exist.
- Another snake goddess of the Aborigines in Australia is Julunggul. She
is called also Kungpipi, Kalwadi, and Her ritual name is Mumuna. She is
a rainbow snake goddess capable of assuming male, neuter, or androgynous
form as well. She is embodied in the pearls, crystals, the ocean, waterfalls,
and the deep pools where She lives. She is eternally pregnant which is
a parallel with Eingana. She is a goddess of initiation (a second birth
to the Aborigines) and puberty. At initiation young boys were symbolically
swallowed and regurgitated out as young men. In Her legend She came to
Arnhem Land in Australia in Dreamtime from a sinking land. ----------
END
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This may be a stretch, but what else is there to do during these endless
re-runs. I read somewhere that there is going to be a giant snake on LOST.
And I was thinking that the "bamboo prison space" can be a metaphorical
swallowing - where inititiation takes place. Maybe the "snake goddess"
comes out of the water and snags them down to the island. Nevertheless,
I liked the myth.
clone11 (sawyerhasbestlines)
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I'm wondering if certain sounds can incuce a meditation/trance state.
If so, people can be open to suggestion, hypnosis, and possibly this could
explain the hallucinations.
Absolutely, this has been known for decades, studied by music psychologists and employed by music therapists. In fact there is such a voluminous literature on this that I wouldn't know where to start.
It has been my hypothesis all along that this plays into the plot, as
the producers made certain the striking noise of the crash was very high
in the mix (and not just, I think, for dramatic effect, but so that we
might recall it subconsciously later in relation to other sounds) and
the peculiar mix of low frequencies and animal sounds that accompanies
the "monster." There are several defense projects in the works
employing sound as a weapon (shades of Classic Trek).
drabauer
clone11/Sawyerhasthebestlines,
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the addition!!
I do not think this is a stretch at all.
Just received my aboriginal books in the mail (thanks Amazon.com) and
will be reading into the night.
As things grab my attention, rest assured, I will post them here.
Glad to see this thread is still alive and kicking. I too think this is
a good thread (and to think I didn't like this theory at first)... Go
figure.
purrkins
I am sorry but the monster sounds nothing like a bullroarer. A conch horn? Sure. Bad robot? Close enough. Dinosaur? Well, it sounds like it could be a huge animal, though we know it won't be a prehistoric reptile. But one must strain one's ears beyond credibility to hear a mini-didgeridoo helicopter.
Instead, compare the black creature with those that appear on the cover
of "Flash and Green Lantern: Faster Friends Part 2" and the
thing that swoops out of the sky towards the about-to-explode turbine
Black Dahlia
Must . . revive . . thread . . .
with this small observation: the score for Peter Weir's the Last Wave
was quite novel at the time (among music geeks; it was a mix of aboriginal
instruments and electronics). I'll be damned it the soundtrack doesn't
sound EXACTLY like it during Malkin's final reading.
I heard a bullroarer/low frequencies with processing.
drabauer
Watched another Peter Weir australian movie last night.
Wow, it was terrible, I don't recommend it, but (Picnic at Hanging Rock)
did have some Lost connections.
- "Hanging Rock" apparantly is magnetic.
- 4 women get (abducted?), 3 of which - poof - disappear altogether. One
of the 4 is eventually found a week later, all scratched up, and she has
amnesia and can't remember her ordeal at all.
Do see: LAST WAVE. It's a must see and will blow your mind in terms of
how you view watching LOST. I am 100% convinced this movie is at the crux
of what is going on in LOS
clone11 (sawyerhasbestlines)
clone11, how can you? Picnic at Hanging Rock is a masterpiece!!!
It is chock full of ambiguity, Extremely novel (for the 70s) direction,
and mounting tension. This has been a very very influential film, and
most would put it up with Galipoli as one of his best.
I would completely recommend it. THere are undertones of rape, sexual
kinkiness and implied incest I only picked up the second viewing. I think
Picnic is very possibly more germance to lost than the Last Wave, with
the theme of innocence corrupted and the extremely controlled society
of the school having been completely corrupted by the mystery and the
secrets about the school it has unlocked, as well as that of the region.
Obviously I read it allegorically, but it is based on a true story, a
rock where over the years several parties have disappeared with no explanation.
drabauer
"how can you?"
I wanna love it, really I do.
Here's what I liked about it: There is a brainy chick teacher that said
the rock was magnetic - and she was drawing Lost style triangles and math
equations when speaking about the rock.
And the head mistress had a great line at the end that I can't remember
the specifics but, when referring to the 4 who went up the rock... She
said "they were spirited away and lost...which got them raped and
murdered." Well the head mistress looked like Baba in the anime "spirited
away" if you ever saw that. Amazing resemblence especially her very
large sculptural hairdo and dress.
Oh, and how can I forget the french mentor/teacher!!!!
clone11 (sawyerhasbestlines)
Hey, ya'll forgot to spell out the best part about Picnic at HR - cute
chicks!
Really, it is a cool movie, one of those where *while* you're watching
it, it can seem a bit long, but afterward you will think about it a lot,
and one day when the opportunity comes up, you will view it again.
Kathy with a K (who is one)
athywithak