Full fathom five thy father lies;
  Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
  Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
The Tempest. Act i. Sc. 2

Science:

Time and its Vicissitudes

Theory #1138

Here's my shot at LOST:

The French were working on Time Travel -- powered by Fusion. Something goes terribly wrong, killing all but one. There is a strong magnetic field aroung the island caused by the time device -- this is what disrupted the plane's navigation and communications and allowed it to do a relatively 'soft' crash landing.

Eventually they find the device and realize the only way to get off the island is to never have crashed in the first place. And the way to do that is to repair the device, go back in time and destroy it. (I realize I've just introduced a paradox -- most time travel stories do).

Jack and Kate do go back in time, but they went back too far and end up by themsleves on the island. The decomposed bodies they found were actually them.
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I see this might fall into the Philadelphia Experiment theory. Sorry for the duplicate.

b a fett

Re: Theory #1138


You know... this is a little wacky, but the writers over at thefuselage.com DO keep bringing up Planet of the Apes.
And didn't Crichton write 'Timeline'?

I'm going to keep this theory high on my list.

deelsee7

Re: Theory #1138


yes, yes, i've been trying to figure out how jack and kate got on the island because i am convinced the dead bodies are them...oooo, oooo, thank you!

jjabramizeme

Re: Theory #1138


that still doesn't explain the sheer number of survivors though...and the monster. Still I like it for what it does have.

leftofpunk

Re: Theory #1138



Eh... time travel is a little far fetched for my tastes, at least man manipulated time travel. Oddly enough, I have no qualms about the theories that they are in purgatory, or that they're in another demention. No, I don't know why.
So...here we are.

ennui

Re: Theory #1138



I like the idea that the dead bodies are jack and kate, but I'm not a fan of the time travel...sadly can't have one without the other though

That would make a freaky ending to it all though...to realize they can't get off the island at all!

NotWithoutStilts

Re: Theory #1138


So Jack takes the rocks off his own body and then goes back in time and dies of old age, then 40-50 years later he crash lands on the island, finds the bodies in the cave, takes the rocks off his own....

morbius76

Re: Theory #1138


Time travel can explain the polar bear.

If...the island was an iceland at one time. We've been shown that what is now under glaciated ice was once lush and tropical.

Southernmapart

Re: Theory #1138


umm... you might need to remember that the whole series is based on fact. No "time travel" etc.

I'm Australian - Yes i watch Lost from Australia. I'm probably the only one!

plokij

Facts or "Psuedo-facts"?

The actual terminology is "Nothing that can't be explained by science or pseudo science", which is vague enough to be meaningless.

kbcash

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


Fett - Don't worry about the duplicate. The basic underlying principles of your theory may fall within the Philadelphia Experiment, but you've definitely gone beyond the theory with your own interpretations.

You should probably give this new theory a name, don't you think?

JacksGirlfriend

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


Here is recent info and link on a 'time gate'

'Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.'

www.newmediaexplorer.org/...covery.htm
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The OP said "Jack and Kate do go back in time, but they went back too far and end up by themselves on the island. The decomposed bodies they found were actually them."

Very good! Please recall that Jack picked at a piece of fabric and said that "it takes about 40 years for cloth to debris to this extent."

I'll take this little tidbit over to the "numbers" thread.

Southernmapart

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


ROTFLMAO Alright, "meaningless" may have been too polite a term, but I'm new here and unfamiliar with the popular terminology. That was a fascinating link, I particularly enjoyed the anecdote about the toaster, which I'll share with the folks over at the Stargate program.

kbcash

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


How to explain the polar bear -- it was one of several animals the French brought with them to be test subjects for the Time Travel experiments.

b a fett

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


this theory might explain why locke knows so much. Maybe for some reason he is aware that they have been there before.

gscaleta

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


So maybe when Locke saw the 'monster' it was something or someONE he recognized?!?!?

Now this is exciting! I've really been bothered by why Locke didn't tell anyone what he saw AND why he is no longer afraid of the 'monter.' If the 'monster' is mechanical in nature, as the sounds seem to indicate, maybe he even saw HIMSELF in some sort of mechanical get up. Maybe he loses the use of his legs again and has to build a machine for transportation.

And seeing himself would reinforce the DESTINY motif he has so firmly embraced.

The more I think about it, the more I like it. Good job, bafett!

deelsee7

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


I too have been wondering if the bodies in the cave are Jack and Kate. I'm wondering now--could they be caught in some kind of time loop? Could they all have been through this before? Another thread here was revisiting the sound the "monster" made the first night and I remembered someone saying they had heard that sound somewhere before. And there was Kate's refusal to move to the cave and her statement: "I don't want to be Eve." Could she have some buried memory of "being" the "Eve" from the cave?
SayidsGirl

Re: Philadelphia and beyond


So, maybe the bodies are Kate and Jack, and there is some sort of time travelling going on or something. But what if the bodies are there because, Kate and Jack decide to stay on the island after there is some sort of "escape" for everyone else? They could have stayed behind to make sure everyone else is rescued or.. just decide they would rather stay there if a plane/ boat came and rescued everyone else?

Rene

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