Full fathom five thy father lies;
  Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
  Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
The Tempest. Act i. Sc. 2

Science:

Quantum Mechanics

Quiet Earth Plus Quantum Sinkhole Theory

Has anybody ever seen the movie "Quiet Earth"?


In that movie, there are only 3 people left behind after a new kind of technology deployed as a power source causes everybody else in the world to disappear at the moment of the deployment. When they meet and share stories, the survivors find the "Effect" as it is called that made all of the other people disappear occurred at the same instant as their deaths and that is why they didn't disappear or maybe wound up in a different reality than everyone else. Later one of the survivors gives his life to shut down the technology and when he dies, he is transported into another dimension.


So what if my quantum sinkhole transports people to an alternate reality if the moment of their death coincides with the moment they collide with the sinkhole?


The quantum sinkhole could have generated the gravitational forces that tore apart the plane.


The people on the ground who died didn't die until nanoseconds AFTER the plane went through the quantum sinkhole. The body of anybody who died BEFORE the plane went through the quantum sinkhole is not going to be found on the island (like maybe the body of Jack's father).


The people who survived the plane crash died at the moment the plane went through the quantum sinkhole. That would explain why there are so many of them when it seems more logical that more people would have died in the plane crash.


In response to an earlier comment on my quantum sinkhole theory, I don't think that the plane and its survivors are in a large land mass at the bottom of the quantum sinkhole. What I think is that the sinkhole probably gobbled them up and then spat them out into a different reality/dimension. It could have been doing this for centuries. The end of the sinkhole (or wormhole as it really ought to be called) that is on the island is stationary; the end of the wormhole that scoops up people and animals and artifacts from our world (and maybe not just from our world) is not anchored down. Perhaps it orbits around the sun and revisits different parts of the Earth at different intervals (sixteen year intervals, 40 year intervals)? Maybe the intervals are not always the same due to other gravitational forces at work like asteroids and comets.


Actually though, I don't think the people who survived the plane crash are dead at all. I think they are just the ones who survived the plane crash and that the plane crash occurred because of the gravitational force of the quantum sinkhole/wormhole. I also think as I stated previously that this wormhole will turn out to be a naturally occurring phenomenon that is consistent with quantum mechanics and/or string theory.


For an example of a documented and very strange natural occurrence involving physics, see the following link in reference to the Oklo Fossil Reactors


www.curtin.edu.au/curtin/...ndex.shtml


I also think that it's possible that the tail section of the plane did not go through the quantum sinkhole/wormhole and that there may have been some survivors in the tail section who didn't wind up on the island but are still in our reality.

That would support Rose's belief that her husband who was in the tail section is still alive.


Hawkmistress


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I really like this theory, but much of it confuses me. So let's forget the movie that had people dying but talking about other people ??!!?


So some kind of wormhole sucked in the plane, and the end of that was the island. How if why when " there may have been some survivors in the tail section who didn't wind up on the island but are still in our reality,"...so where are they, guys? to paraphrase Charlie?


drabauer


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Hawkmistress,


Your theory loosely fits with my forthcoming 'duality of man' theory and how it relates to the dark vs light, good vs evil thing going on. (ref: the black and white stones, Backgammon, etc.) In fact a corollary to the Duality Principle applies to Einstein's unsuccessful and lifelong search for a "unified field" which would unite general relativity, his own theory of space-time and gravitation along with Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism. The contemporary effort, known as the Grand Unified Theory, is of course a continuation of Einstein's efforts and has produced a proliferation of models.

Now, according to the Duality Principle, if a unified force were found that united the strong, weak, electromagnetic and gravitational forces then a complimentary force, or dual force, would also be discovered.


More later.


Badger32

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Sorry, I think I over-complicated the theory in describing it.


Basically, I think the writers are going to use physics to come up with their pseudo-scientific explanation of the island's mystery. String theory is one of the hottest theories in cosmological physics right now and it allows for the existence of multiple dimensions and wormholes. Right now I believe string theory is entirely theoretical, based entirely on equations, with no physical evidence to support it, and it is still in the process of being developed. Therefore string theory gives the writers a lot of lattitude for coming up with pseudo-scientific explanations for weird happenings.
Another interesting thing about the wormholes and multiple dimensions of string theory is that they would be naturally-occurring phenomena. When I read about the fossils of the naturally-occurring nuclear reactors at Oklo, I was struck by how very strange nature can actually be sometimes.


This theory of mine doesn't rule out The Philadelphia Experiment explanation, as there may be more than one way of getting to the Island, the accidental or natural way taken by Jack & CO, and perhaps an artificial technological way, as could have been taken by the French scientists. Perhaps the physicists who worked on The Philadelphia Experiment and the French scientists who worked on a similar experiment knew of the naturally-occurring wormhole or wormholes that already existed, and tried to re-create or access them by means of modern technology.


So I agree with JacksGirlFriend that there is a "rip" in the space-time continuum and I think that there could very likely be a connection to The Philadelphia Experiment as Pinnerman has suggested. I am just adding to that theory the following ideas.


1. The physics of the rip or wormhole has something to do with modern string theories of multiple dimensions and wormholes.


2. Since the French people arrived 16 years earlier, but the corpses that Jack found were 40 years old, the wormhole is probably not stationary in time, at least on the end that scoops up people to dump them out on the island.


3. The presence of the polar bear and whatever is rampaging out there in the forest indicate that perhaps the gobbling end of the wormhole is not stationary in space either.


4. A wormhole that is not stationary in space or time or in spacetime could also span dimensions so like JacksGirlFriend I have my doubts that the Lost are still on Earth and wish someone on the Island would look at the stars to figure out where they are! Wouldn't it be cool if they find some scientist on the island eventually who points to the stars and says "This stellar configuration definitively shows that we are not on Earth - at least not on our Earth".


5. People and creatures from different spacetime dimensions could give the writers the chance to explore some what-if scenarios that would be very interesting in terms of politics and history - like what would the world situation on another Earth be like if the French scientists came from that Earth and the Napoleanic dynasty continued to rule over Europe in that reality.


Hawkmistress


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My knowledge of physics is limited (I can tell you how the radar and laser "guns" I used to catch speeders in my squad car, worked) but your theory seems as plausible as any of the other 100+ running around here...


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