Full fathom five thy father lies;
  Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
  Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
The Tempest. Act i. Sc. 2

Science:

Biological theories

Regenerative Virus Theory

After the last episode, I came up with the following theory:


French scientists have been expirementing on the island, in order to develop a special virus, which doesn't harm people, but heal them. This Regenerative Virus hadn't been perfected yet, and was very dangerous. Test animals were respondent to the regenerative effects of the virus, but they also displayed the dangerous side-effects (aggressiveness, insanity, ...?). If anything went wrong, the unfinished virus had to be contained at all costs.


Something went wrong...


There was a breach and the scientists were contaminated. Some wanted to escape the island, but others didn't. One of the scientists (Brendan or Danielle) sabotaged the ship and locked some crucial equipment away (Brendan took the keys), so no one could escape. A huge conflict ensued and the people who wanted to escape tried to kill the ones who wanted to stay. Danielle killed them too in order to defend herself, her child and the safety of mankind, which could not be exposed to the virus. Then she sent out a disress call, which was meant for the people who controlled the experiment from the outside, hoping they could help cure them from the virus. The experiment was considered a failure, though, and helping Danielle and Alex would be too dangerous. Therefore, the experiment was abandoned and covered up by the French government (or some other (secret?) institution). Danielle was left alone on the island with her child Alex, who disappeared somehow.


Sixteen years after the massacre, Sayid came along.


zhenar

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Zhenar: Actually this is rather good. I'm impressed with it. None of us took it this far. Although I'm hoping for more than just a virus, I wouldn't mind seeing this part of the entire scenario. Very nice.
JacksGirlfriend

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I'm thinking there's probably a lot more to the whole story than just the virus, because my theory doesn't explain the monster, 'the others' and the fact that the plane just 'happened to crash' on that specific island.
But it does explain some things, like what happened to the French scientists, why Locke can walk again and why so many people don't seem to be seriously injured from the crash.


I'm very curious to see if this theory can hold up against the next couple of episodes...


zhenar

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I thought of the island having some kind of regenerative properties, but I never made the leap to a virus. But it makes sense and gives a reason for the scientific expedition. I think it has potential to fit.


JacksGirlfriend

 

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Here's a crazy thought--


tie your "regenerative virus theory" to the "Time-loop" or "wormhole" theory and you could have an island of immortality. The virus would not only cure people of their illnesses and injuries, but grant them eternal youth--in other words they won't physically age from the time they are exposed to the virus. This could be a way for Claire's baby to tie into the "history" of the island and be the key to everything--the baby will remain a perpetual infant, and never mature. Or worse, she could be perpetually pregnant and never give birth.


This could be why things like Shannon's asthma have been introduced--gradually, as her body is more affected by the regenerative virus, her asthma will disappear.


This could also be why Charlie's drug withdrawl has been so tame. And why people with injuries seem to heal so quickly. (Michael only limped for a day or two after being gored by the boar, Jack's dislocated shoulder seemed to stop hurting after just a day or two, Charlie's bee stings disappeared overnight, etc.) The only catch with this one is why Locke's paralysis was so quickly healed--unless the virus heals the nervous-system most quickly and his paralysis was purely a nerve injury.


Where the time-loop comes in is the animals, the monster, Danielle, the 'others.' Perhaps a strange wormhole or time-loop did trap all these people and creatures from different eras on the island, and they were all exposed to and affected by this regenerative virus, which preserved them at the same age at which they were "Lost."
So why could the Marshall, the boars, Adam and Eve, and the polar bear die? Because the virus can only do so much. As long as the major systems of the body have at least some degree of functionality, the virus will start working its magic. But if one or more systems is catastrophically damaged, nothing can prevent death. In fact, Adam and Eve may have figured this out and gone to the caves to commit some kind of ritualistic suicide to end their interminible lives.


Danielle also knows about the viruses affects, and out of fear for what it could do if spread to a larger population, killed the rest of her crew. She might also think that her distress call was terminated ages ago, but something about the time-loop has kept it going? That part I'm still working on.


This theory really makes me worry about Claire. If I had to be perpetually eight months pregnant, I might end up killing myself. I've been pregnant twice--trust me, you don't want to live like that forever.


jncar

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This theory reminds me of the translator microbes of Farscape. Rockne O'Bannon wrote a short story set in the far future of Chrichton in which he reveals that they also repaired the body, leading to a lifespan 3-4 times that of a normal person (lifeform!)


It still might be something in the water or air rather than bioengineered (for those that don't care for conspiracy theories).


drabauer

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zhenar: Keep working on this one. I think it has a lot of merit. I myself have been obsessed with aliens being involved ever since I read the translation of the comic book page.


Are the aliens lonely, studying earth, mad that we shot down their ambassadors in Roswell 50 years ago... The list goes on and I have no idea, but something like a regenerative virus sounds like an ET project for sure!
So why were there so many bodies and so many survivors? My guess would be that the virus can't fix anything that's dead, so the survivors are the ones that were still clinging to life after the crash. They couldn't fix 'shrapnel guy' because, well, he had a piece of shrapnel stuck in him! And, as far as I know, the polar bear may have gotten up later. Has anyone looked for the body?


deelsee7

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Or worse, she could be perpetually pregnant and never give birth.
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jncar: Yes, exactly. This is why I get a headache. I have been thinking basically the same things you have been thinking for over two months. Just imagine how I feel.


I went through the entire psychological meltdown (my own I mean) in Time Loops until cc finally told me "to get some sleep". I just recently started posting in some other threads about time and its looping/swirling/resetting when we started talking about it again. I mind-boggle myself sometimes.


But I still believe in it and won't let it go. I just have to find some way to actually communicate exactly what I mean. The closest I can come is when Railway suggested Brigadoon in a desperate attempt to bring me back to earth. Kind of close - not exact - but kind of. It will come to me eventually. I just have to do some serious thinking damn it!


JacksGirlfriend

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Right now, I'm trying to figure out what dangerous side-efects the virus could possibly cause. Mental illness is an obvious one, like seeing dead people (Jack's father), hearing voices (Sayid and Danielle) or obsessive behaviour (Locke). Ethan's rash could also be one, though I prefer to think the side-effects are mostly mental (because it would be strange that the virus both heals and destroys ones body).


A bit of a gap in the theory is that for all the survivors to be healed right after the plane crash, they had to be contaminated with the virus immediatly after they crashed. But if the virus is that contagious, Danielle would have known that Sayid was already 'sick'. - Unless it's not that contagious, but they were already infected on the plane! (Of course, Danielle might not know everything about the virus and how it infects people)


I hope to figure these and other stuff out as I further develop the theory.


zhenar

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Zhenar: Prepare for your own series of headaches then.


JacksGirlfriend

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LOL. I think I can handle the headaches. It's the sleepless nights that I'm worried about, Jacksgirl.


zhenar


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There will be plenty of those too.


JacksGirlfriend

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I really like this theory zhenar. I have a similar one myself.


I tend to believe Danielle when she says that her and her team did ship wreck on the island though. However this could still go with your theory. Danielle and her team could have been working on a regenerative virus and had something go wrong, maybe even a mutation. At that point they packed up and even maybe got rid of the person or animal they thought to be the carrier of this mutation only to find out later that it was one of their own that was the carrier.


So I really like your idea. I think that the side affects may be too vague which is why I tend to go with the idea of a mutation. Which in that case would mean that there was both a regenerative case and a mutation of some sorts.


edens demise

 

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Edens Demise, I agree that my 'side effects'-portion of the theory is a bit vague. I really like the idea of a mutation, though.


I had a similar idea: what if there is a virus (not mutated, but just really dangerous) *and* a regenerative 'virus'/bacteria, or whatever. Then there also would be a danger-component and a healing-component on the island...


zhenar

 

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How does the regenerative virus explain the strange serendipity of a group of survivors encountering a polar bear after Walt saw one in a comic book? Unless the virus also causes a mild form of telepathy so that people in different locations can suggest hallucinations into one another's minds? Then if the polar bear was a hallucination, does that mean it is no longer where they left it?


If there's a regenerative virus, why is that one guy suffering from hives? (Unless the virus can't do anything about psychosomatic illnesses)?


If the regenerative virus can restore people from the brink of death, why do Kate and Jack still have cuts and scrapes on their faces from the crash? Why did Jack need stitches for the wound in his side? These seem to be far less serious injuries than the near-fatal injuries they probably would have suffered in the crash.


How did a regenerative virus rip the pilot out of the cockpit and deposit his chewed-up corpse on top of a tree?

Why didn't the chewed-up pilot regenerate and climb down out of the tree? Was he too badly injured for regeneration?


Hawkmistress

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Hawkmistress- Are you're going to let a few petty inconsistencies destroy a perfectly good theory?


robinhood56

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@Hawkmistress:


I'll try to explain these inconsistensies:


The polar bear:


In this scenario, the bear is not a hallucination, but a former test subject (or offspring). In that case, there is no connection between the comic book and the bear.


Unless, like you suggest, telepathy comes into play, which I doubt.
Ethan the rash guy:


Perhaps the virus simply doesn't cure everything, or perhaps Ethan is resistant to the virus. I'll get into both of those later.


Jack & Kate's wounds:


They also could be resistant. Or, like with the rash, perhaps the virus can't 'heal' everything. It could be that it doesn't affect the upper skin layer(s), which would mean that cuts and scrapes aren't affected by the virus, as is Ethan's rash.


I must admit this is explanation is a bit too convenient.


The pilot:


The virus didn't grab the pilot, obviously. That must've been something else. Possibly some creature affected by the virus (a highly agressive elephant?), or possibly something else.


The pilot didn't regenerate because he was killed in the attack. The virus can't heal the dead. If it could, the other casualties from the plane crash would've been healed also.
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Addition:


I'll admit that the greatest gap in my theory is the fact that people do get injured on the island. The fact that they survived the crash with little injuries and the quick recoveries of much of the dameges they sustained on the island does (to me) indicate some kind of healing force. But why isn't everything healed?


Let's begin with stating that the virus only heals damaged tissue. This leaves out Shannon's astma and possibly also the rash. It still leaves all wounds sustained in the plane crash and also Locke's leg muscles.


Then the question about the more serious wounds arise: why wasn't the marshall healed? why wasn't Jack's wound healed? Why wasn't Sawyer's knife wound healed?


This could be explained as follows:


The virus only works when people are unconscious/asleep. We saw some survivors of the plane crash 'wake up' (e.g. Locke and Jack). It's quite likely that the crash knocked out many of the passengers, which might have been their saviour. I'm assuming here that they got infected immediatly and the virus healed them really, really fast (this is quite a leap, but I'll ponder on that some more later).


Some passengers were immediatly killed, so the virus couldn't do anything for them anymore. Others might have survived the crash, but stayed conscious and then died of their wounds. This would explain why there were so many deaths, but also so many seemingly unharmed survivors.


What about the Marshall? He was unconscious, but the virus couldn't heal him as long as the shrapnel piece was stuck inside him. I don't remember if they pulled the thing out or not, but anyhow, the fact that he woke up took away the possibility of him being healed. Now if they'd just pulled the shrapnel piece out of him and then knocked him unconsious...


Michael and Sawyer both didn't sleep before their wounds were looked after, so there wasn't time for the virus to heal those.


The fact that people still had some (light) wounds after the plane crash can be explained by the fact that they woke up before the virus had fully restored them.


So that explains most of the sustained wounds, deaths, etcetera, without someone being 'resistent' to the virus or something. Just one annoying thing remains: why are some wounds (like Jacks & Kate's cuts and scrapes) still not healed? Everyone has been 'unconscious' (asleep) since then, but still various superficial wounds and scars remain.


This gap in the theory could be dealt with through my 'upper skin layer' explanation (see above: "Jack & Kate's wounds"), but I don't like that explanation; it's too convenient and it doesn't really make that much sense.
I'll try to explain this one later. I think the answer can be found in white blood cells or something... let me get back on that some other time.

Apologies for the long text, by the way.

zhenar

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Hey zhenar, I do think it's a good theory, I am just playing devil's advocate and trying to figure out all the details.
One thing I didn't get from my first reading of the theory is that you think the virus maybe infects animals as well as humans.


In that case I wonder if the dog Vincent is infected as well and if we will see evidence of this in future episodes.

Hawkmistress

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I got your devil's advocate role, Hawkmistress, and am grateful for it. Theories benefit from well constructed criticism, after all.


It's hard to play devil's advocate to your own theory, though, so your input is greatly appreciated!

I'm sure interesting things will happen to Vincent...

zhenar

virus theory

First post...here goes.


Maybe the technology at work isn't a virus but some sort of nanotechnology - that would allow for both healing properties and perhaps more (a manifestation that is the "monster"?). Perhaps there is a animating artificial intelligence at work (Alex?)


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